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Old 04-07-10, 06:35 AM   #1
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Last night began a pretty hard class, one of my last in my program of Network Security. I'm not following the instructions for a group project very well...I feel like my entire time in this college has been nothing but hurried along classes, open book exams and such just to get us in and out of there for them to make money off us. I feel like I do not know what I should know as a senior student about to be in an externship. I have voiced my concerns several times and still I get arty farty answers and half listening professors saying "Oh a job will train you thier way once you get hired somewhere"
The group project for this class is nothing less than a nightmare and this professor simply SUCKS at helping students with things. There's nothing I can do..I've talked to the professors, the dean, no one gives a shit.
I am so scared all my college time will be for nothing and I will fail on the job becasue I chose the suckiest college on the planet. Damn these people. I wish I could sue or not pay tuition if I don't get work, becasue I can do the job, but I need INSTRUCTION, not piss ass teachers who don't care.
Yes, I'm having a stressed day and it's only 7:30 am!!
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Old 04-08-10, 07:54 AM   #2
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I'm a year out of college after majoring in something similar to you (I'm assuming, since you have a network security class). I did get a job in the field, though it is through a staffing agency and doesn't pay too well, so I definitely have a "2nd class employee" feeling at work. To tell the truth I think the actual reason I got the job was experience (some extremely part time IT jobs during high school and college) and certifications. I think that certifications mean as much as, if not more than, a degree. The only problem is that beyond the first few basic ones they start to pigeonhole you into specific areas and technologies within IT.

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This is true; I think that's why people hiring in IT value relevant experience and certifications so much more than general schooling.

I suppose my message isn't too helpful; just know that I feel the same way. Tens of thousands of dollars just to learn a few tidbits here and there; I'd be so much further along if they actually taught specific technologies in depth rather than overarching theories. On the other hand, in the long run, it's the theories and methods that will still be useful, not the 2010 version of whatever software suite or programming language or whatever it is you're learning.
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I'm in a similar situation as the two of you, I got a Bachelor's degree in computer science last year, and I've been unemployed since the start of this year (I had a temporary job for a while but it didn't last). I feel apathetic about programming/IT/computers but I don't know what else I can do, unless you have a better idea; I have no interests, goals, etc.

What are these IT certifications you're talking about? I keep hearing about them. I actually never took a course in network security, probably hardly anything I did was useful. I actually attended a similar class on the first day but there was some low level programming that scared me.
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The two most useful certifications are the A+ from CompTIA and to a lesser extent the Network+, also from CompTIA. Beyond that you start getting technology specific, like Cisco certs or MCSE (for Cisco and Microsoft, respectively). There's really hundreds of them though, so take your pick. Just see what the job listings in your area are searching for.
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Thanks for the replies. I have heard right now the job market sucks even for people with degrees, not just ones like me with no degree (yet). That don't make me feel any better, lol.
Seriously, I think picking an accelerated college wasn't the best idea, tho I have learned a lot. And yes, I will be earning an Associate degree in Network security. It's been a real pain, I'll be honest. I wanted to take the web design classes, but they have a f'ed up entrance exam (which is stupid) and I kept missing a passing score by one or two points..bullcrap. Oh well.
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Old 04-12-10, 08:31 AM   #6
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That is weird. They didn't have a remedial course to offer at the least?
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