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boulevard-traveler 04-12-09 07:26 PM

Anybody else not like Jane Austen?
 
I had to read Sense and Sensibility a few years ago for one of my classes and it really stunk. Everyone in my class who had to read it agreed and our teacher promised to never ever teach the book again. Earlier this year, I had to read Mansfield Park and that was much worse! Her books are all about two people on a couch fluttering their eyelids at one another. If you're lucky, you might hear a sigh out of one of them. I think Jane Austen is the inventor of the trashy romance novels you can get for 95 cents a pop at Wal Mart.

If there are any people out there who like Jane Austen, I'm sorry if I offended you.

Delta40 04-12-09 08:44 PM

You haven't offended me. i have never got around to Sense and Sensibility. I did enjoy Pride and Prejudice. Her own life story is a saga in itself. I think given the age, Jane Austen was a very forward thinking woman and portrayed her female characters as rather independent.

I feel the same way about Jane Eyre.

Female authors often wrote under male pseudynms as their literature was not taken seriously or even not published.

Mary Shelley's Frankenstein was originally not submitted under her name.

I am willing to afford female authors of the time credit for their efforts. But really, in the end, it is about taste. Love stories are a genre. Not everyone likes them.

I have never read Frankenstein.

boulevard-traveler 04-12-09 10:15 PM

Maybe I am a little too harsh when it comes to Jane Austen. Again, I'm sorry if I offended anybody.

Delta40 04-12-09 10:21 PM

What books do you like BT?

boulevard-traveler 04-12-09 10:27 PM

I like a little bit of everything, (there are a couple of romances out there I really like, like Jane Eyre and I write romantic novels in my spare time, which I think is really ironic).

Delta40 04-12-09 10:36 PM

Oh ok! It is beautifully Ironic. The title of your next story, I imagine 'The Irony of Love'.

I used to read alot but these days I am reading stuff for university. I did read two books recently

Careless by Deborah Robertson. That just won an award here and she is also my lecturer.

Disgrace by Jim Coetzee. That also won an award.

I was writing myself but since I went back to uni, my creative side dried up completely. I don't even write in my journal which is odd because it used to be a wonderful place to go. I suppose it will come again at some point.

Are you posting your work? I'm sorry I haven't checked the forums lately.

boulevard-traveler 04-12-09 10:44 PM

That would be a really good title...i used to write alot until my depression hit. It wasn't until I got to college when I picked it up again. I used to post sections of my novels here, but I haven't written anything good lately.

Are those books good? Most of the stuff I read now is for school.

Delta40 04-12-09 10:53 PM

I enjoyed them both. I'm doing a unit called Literature in an age of Terror. These books are not about terrorism as we know it on television but about terror that comes into our lives.

Careless is about a young girl who witnessess the death of her brother and five other children when a weekend father goes berserk at a funbus and runs them all over. It focuses on the shock wave effect of death, who is involved with and how, as more people become involved as we move further away from the event one starts to care less. I can't explain it but it also focuses on grief at various levels. The child, the mother, the community, the stakeholders and so on. It looks at death in all its array. She is giving a lecture on her book next week and I'm researching memorials Pearl Harbor, Hiroshima and Berlin memorial to use as an example of mourning the dead and the reasons why we have them.

Disgrace involves another terror event which is out of the main characters control which is situated in Africa. Its a really good read because the professor never quite makes the connection between his own terror and the terror of his daughter who lives on a plantation. He fails to realize his terror causes her more terror. It is a very good book and full of politics that grey your mind.

How is that for a review without googling?

boulevard-traveler 04-12-09 11:00 PM

They sound pretty interesting...last year, we had to read a couple of Gothic novels for one of my classes. I love Gothic Literature.

Delta40 04-12-09 11:15 PM

Mmmmm anything with a castle in it I suppose? I was thinking of the Picture of Dorian Gray and saying I don't read Gothic fiction but I suppose I have. I mean isn't the Secret Garden gothic? I get the impression there is an element of darkness or mystery and a scary building thrown in.

boulevard-traveler 04-12-09 11:20 PM

Now that I think about it, I guess the Secret Garden has some elements of Gothic in it...

Classic Gothic include works like Frankenstein, Dracula, The Monk, The Castle of Otranto, Jane Eyre and Wuthering Heights, to name a few.

Delta40 04-12-09 11:37 PM

Even the Lion the Witch and the Wardrobe had one big old house! Still I don't mind the genre so much as long as I like the book.

sundaymornin 04-15-09 05:53 PM

I like a little Southern Gothic, myself.

sundaymornin 04-15-09 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Delta40 (Post 260708)
Disgrace by Jim Coetzee. That also won an award.

I just noticed this. Have you read his Foe? I have it on my shelf, but haven't gotten to it yet.

boulevard-traveler 04-15-09 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by sundaymornin (Post 262228)
I like a little Southern Gothic, myself.

Have you read Flannery O'Connor?

Delta40 04-15-09 06:46 PM

No I haven't read any more of his books. I haven't been treating myself to reading. I read Ken Follet's Pillars of the Earth and the sequel. That was a good read. A long read. How people's entire lives do really revolve around the church in medieval England. The characters were wonderful. He brought this era so true to life yet if he threw in a couple of dragons it would have stepped into the realm of fantasy!

sundaymornin 04-16-09 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by boulevard-traveler (Post 262254)
Have you read Flannery O'Connor?

I've read everything I could find of hers... Wise Blood, The Violent Bear it Away, Collected Stories, Mystery and Manners (essay collection)

If there's more out there, I'll get to it eventually.

boulevard-traveler 04-16-09 02:54 PM

I like O'Connor, especially A Good Man is Hard to Find

sundaymornin 04-16-09 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by boulevard-traveler (Post 262666)
I like O'Connor, especially A Good Man is Hard to Find

That's probably the one that got me hooked on her. Either that or Everything That Rises Must Converge.

Juno 07-24-09 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Delta40 (Post 260640)

I feel the same way about Jane Eyre.

I'm sure you meant to write Charlotte Bronte. What Jane Austin and the Brontes did was inspiring, regardless of opinion of their output (but really, Jane Eyre sucks ass). In a time when women were relegated to second class citizens, they struck a blow for equality - even if they had to pretend to be men.

Delta40 07-24-09 08:36 PM

This will make a much more interesting read!

Pride and Prejudice and Zombies - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Juno 07-24-09 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Delta40 (Post 308920)
This will make a much more interesting read!

Pride and Prejudice and Zombies - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

That book pisses me off, because anyone can edit a classic and put in shit like that, doesn't take much skill. I had the same kind of idea, not with monsters though.

Delta40 07-24-09 10:01 PM

now now Juno, you're just jealous because you weren't quick enough to publish your idea and make a gazillion bucks!!!!

Juno 07-24-09 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Delta40 (Post 308970)
now now Juno, you're just jealous because you weren't quick enough to publish your idea and make a gazillion bucks!!!!

Exactly.:smile:

Kuutar 10-10-10 02:54 PM

I do not like, too boring.

Juno 08-06-15 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by boulevard-traveler (Post 260618)
I had to read Sense and Sensibility a few years ago for one of my classes and it really stunk. Everyone in my class who had to read it agreed and our teacher promised to never ever teach the book again. Earlier this year, I had to read Mansfield Park and that was much worse! Her books are all about two people on a couch fluttering their eyelids at one another. If you're lucky, you might hear a sigh out of one of them. I think Jane Austen is the inventor of the trashy romance novels you can get for 95 cents a pop at Wal Mart.

If there are any people out there who like Jane Austen, I'm sorry if I offended you.

Never read her. Jane Eyre (by Charlotte Bronte) on the other hand is hot trash in woeful need of a strict editor.


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