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Old 08-20-14, 10:44 PM   #11
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Yeah when I tell people I'm schizophrenic (supposedly anyway), they either think I'm lying and making excuses for failure, or they think I'm crazy and everything I say to them after that fact out there is dwindled down to crazy-talk.
do you not agree with the diagnosis? Its really annoying when people dismiss everything you say as crazy talk. just because you have a mental illness or problem doesnt mean what you say is irrelevent or automatically 'crazy'.

I think that if you feel that you get some positives from them then you could try taking the positive aspects and using them somehow to make them less troublsome and irritating? maybe a bit of distraction, maybe getting in touch with some soothing or peaceful thoughts?
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Correction: some people, not all.

I'm glad someone can relate. :)

What do you mean by using the positive aspects to make them less troublesome? And what do you mean when you say get in touch with peaceful thoughts?
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Old 08-20-14, 11:17 PM   #13
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basically if you feel that youve been protected then using that feeling to push aside negative feelings. and discovering what are calming thoughts to you that you could try to use to try and combat negative feelings maybe if you can bring up a peaceful or happy thought you could push away the negative daydreams/intrusive thoughts. Just ideas: im no expert
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I tried driving out the thoughts by replacing them with positive self-talk in my head. It backfired once my mind started to naturally wander.

I think these voices serve a purpose, so I guess I'll just live with them. I'm tired of trying different approachees, to compulsively call hotlines all the time when they are of little to no help and they're probably sick of me.

Thanks for your help ds.

So who else wants to weigh in please?
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I have been making room for the thoughts, letting them serve their purpose, and it seems to work. What do you guys think?
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I could always have more than one coping strategy. But I love consistency and knowing what you will do forever, even though my therapist says it's okay to switch. Something works "so far" or "for now" but she knows full well it won't last. I've fallen in love with the loner life so it would be sad to change again, I guess...

I also like talking to myself in my head, at least when I can't find a distraction. I read an article that said that talking to yourself for six hours makes you more comfortable in your own skin and less externally needy....
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I have been making room for the thoughts, letting them serve their purpose, and it seems to work. What do you guys think?
Works for me, but that's me. They are there in my head, I just don't pay attention to them. It's hard to explain. The dark thoughts are there, and when I tried to make them go away, they always came back stronger. So I gave them a part of my brain to live in and partitioned that bit off from the rest and let them get on with it. They are there, I just ignore them.

When something bad in my life happens they try to take over and that's when I use distractions till they quiet down again.

I know I'm not explaining it very well, but I don't really know how to put it into words and can't think of a suitable analogy.

I've been reading your extremely well written journal with interest over the past few weeks and although we are very different people, I think some of our thought processes are similar. I know who Le Vay is, for example, and went through a stage like that when I was looking for answers. I also have major problems with remembering things that I have learnt in the past. Even books that I have read dozens of times.

Also, I talk to myself in my head, every minute I'm awake, all day long - constantly analysing things around me and figuring out the why's and wherefore's of things.

And I am a loner too. Have been for 20 years or so. I don't particularly want to be, but it's better off for my head if I am. I should warn you, though - being a loner can get lonely at times, usually when you least expect it, and that's when the dark thoughts re-appear. It's best to be ready for them and have a plan in case it does.

Is this post any help to you? Probably not, lol. My head is a bit strange, and seems to work differently to a lot of peoples, but I can live with it - I have to.

Sorry if this is useless to you.
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Also, I talk to myself in my head, every minute I'm awake, all day long - constantly analysing things around me and figuring out the why's and wherefore's of things.
That post wasn't useless in the least! Thanks so much for complimenting my journal. That feels good. Now I'm glad I opened up on this site.

And it's really cool how we have so much in common.

This part of what you said sounds the most appealing. I think if I constantly talk to myself every minute I'm awake, all day long, and enjoy analyzing things, that will take up my mental energy, away from involuntary intrusive thoughts and images.

What sorts of things do you tell yourself?
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Um, I question myself more than tell myself things. I'm constantly analysing my every action and every thought and also the actions and thoughts of other people, on the net and in real life.

Right now I'm asking myself - Why am I writing this? Is it a genuine attempt to show empathy with someone or is there an ulterior selfish motive for it? And if so, why? And what is that motive? Is there something I should say or not say? How much of what goes on in my head should I let out? If I write this or that will it be taken the wrong way? What will other people think? ShouldI care what they think? Should I post at all? Should I think more about what I'm going to say before posting?

It goes on and on, lol. That is just the tip of the iceberg that is my psyche.

It is my great belief that the majority of people lie to themselves all the time. It's a defense mechanism because they cannot accept that the dark parts of their mind are a part of them so they deny it and hide from it. Some people are extremely good at it, some are not, but most of all - THEY DON'T KNOW THEY ARE DOING IT.

I am a very honest person, but most of all I strive to be honest with myself. Understanding why I think this way and why I have certain thoughts and desires and emotions is a constant thing with me. Understanding myself helps me to accept who I am. The dark bits and the good bits.
( Understanding myself helps me to understand other people as well - I can generally spot a liar or selfish person a mile off. So it has it's benefits, lol. )

I DO tell myself some things. I tell myself 'I am who I am' ( think that's Descartes, or maybe Popeye? ) When I do something I regret, which is not often these days, I tell myself 'That was a mistake. Remember. Don't make the same mistake again.' and things like that.

What I DON'T tell myself is 'You are a beautiful person. You are an abomination. Things will get better. Things will get worse. It's not your fault. Everything is your fault. You will find love. You won't ever find love.' These are absolutes, and I don't like those.

Sometimes I'm beautiful, sometimes I'm abominable. Sometimes it's my fault, sometimes it's not. Maybe I'll find love again, maybe I won't.

I'm a realist, or at least I try to be. I try to go through life with my eyes open and see it for what it really is. And myself for who I really am.

I'd better stop now, lol. I wish I could explain what I mean more clearly, it's annoying not being able to put into words what I mean, but hopefully you get the gist of it.
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That sounds difficult to be constantly analyzing yourself. Are you content?
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