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Old 06-02-10, 02:34 PM   #1
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12 people were shot today in CUMBRIA ENGLAND AND THE MAN INVOLVED
52 yr old Derrick BIRD TURNED THE GUN ON HIMSELF.

MAY all those involved be comforted at this tragic time ........................

THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS GO OUT TO THEM.
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God help the families of all those who died. It will take a long time for the community involved to recover, if ever.

On a personal note, however, I cannot help having some empathy with the killer. He must have had a tortured mind to carry out the actions he did. Tortured minds are something that most of us on TTL know a lot about. True, most of us will never take such desperate and tragic measures.

But, in the depth of my own depression I have thought about taking my own life and must admit that fleeting thoughts had gone through my mind that there were so many "bastards" that I would like to take with me, who in one way or another had added to the mess that was "ME".

It is a scarey thought. I could not imagine myself ever killing innocent passers by. But, when it comes to mental illness anything is possible.
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YOU know what B.D. - when the news came through - actually i didnt find out till evening - they started describing the man................. and i felt exacty the same as you did. I AM REALLY RELIEVED AT THIS- cos when I TOLD MY MUM AND SISTER HOW I FELT - THEY SAID YOU CANT DO.

Actually - yes - I HAVE FELT SO MUCH EMPATHY FOR HIM - ONLY PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN THROUGH SO MUCH PAIN CAN UNDERSTAND - THATS WHY I SAID MAY GOD BLESS ALL THOSE INVOLVED.

he has two sons as well - how can they live with that?? IM sorry........
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JUST DONT EVER BUY A g-- and im serious about this. I DONT KNOW HOW HE GOT HOLD OF IT OR ANYTHING.
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this is a sad news..
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YOU know what B.D. - when the news came through - actually i didnt find out till evening - they started describing the man................. and i felt exacty the same as you did. I AM REALLY RELIEVED AT THIS- cos when I TOLD MY MUM AND SISTER HOW I FELT - THEY SAID YOU CANT DO.

Actually - yes - I HAVE FELT SO MUCH EMPATHY FOR HIM - ONLY PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN THROUGH SO MUCH PAIN CAN UNDERSTAND - THATS WHY I SAID MAY GOD BLESS ALL THOSE INVOLVED.

he has two sons as well - how can they live with that?? IM sorry........

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I'm relieved that I'm not the only one with such thoughts (even if only fleeting).

Had I had access to a gun...I would not be here right now to type this.
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Everyone has thoughts about it, but it takes a special kind of asshole to actually kill innocents. If your life sucks, feel free to shoot yourself. Zero empathy for murdering random people while at it. Most murderers...aren't insane I think. They know what they are doing and they do it for their own pleasure in most cases.
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Everyone has thoughts about it, but it takes a special kind of asshole to actually kill innocents. If your life sucks, feel free to shoot yourself. Zero empathy for murdering random people while at it. Most murderers...aren't insane I think. They know what they are doing and they do it for their own pleasure in most cases.
True. Zero empathy for murdering random people.

But, most of us have people in mind who have made our lives hell. You would be lying to yourself if at some time or other you had not fantasized about taking those assholes with you. Furthermore, when you are mentally ill you are capable of anything and rational thinking may no longer be possible.

I would not call the likes of Derick Bird an "asshole" either. The true assholes are in national governments today who see nothing wrong with bombing innocent people in war zones: the Blitz on England, the allied bombing of Dresden, civilian casualties in Afghanistan, Iraq, and Gaza. These 100% assholes have not even got the veil of mental illness to hide behind. They knew exactly what they were doing and feel no guilt for their actions.
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VICTIM NO. 1 TWIN BROTHER
VICTIM2 SOLICITOR -possibly to do with family will or not.
the rest of the people are random/

The rest were random people but one was

a 'friend' who worked with him at sellafield nuclear plant- where he was sacked 10 years ago for theft.

He currently worked as a taxi driver. in a beautiful part of ENgland and said that he was angry because other drivers were using his patch.

We dont know for sure if his mothers will had anything to do with his mental state.

BUT HE DID SAY THAT THERE WOULD BE CARNAGE - THIS WAS APPARENTLY SAID TO SOMEONE BEFORE IT HAPPENED.
MR bird was divorced with 2 young boys - HE ENDED UP SHOOTING AND KILLING HIMSELF.

sorry if i have gone on - .

he had also complained about teenagers wanting a drive home from some night club and then them jumping out and not paying. tHIS DOES HAPPEN A LOT IN TAX-ING.

he was worried a bout tax he owed to the inland revenue.
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