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Old 12-30-12, 09:58 PM   #1
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I'll probably use this thread to post new stuff I come up with. In this case, I'm providing one link - to my most recent work. You can find many others through that same soundcloud by clicking on my name. (Yes, I am revealing part of my real name, but that is fine.)

https://soundcloud.com/jrmickelson/abyss

I have suffered from depression, anxiety, and probably a few other "disorders" over the years. Music is one of the things that holds me together. I often wonder at times if people who feel as I do, would be the ones who truly connect with what I write. I guess I'll find out, eventually.

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Old 12-31-12, 09:25 PM   #2
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I certainly hope thirty people didn't view this thread only to utterly dislike what it had to offer. Best wishes to you all.
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I wish the tracks were longer. I only listened to Chemistry and Abyss for now, and I find them to be pretty cool. You make really futuristic sounding electronic music, mine usually sound so experimental and organic that I end up disliking them...

Have you ever though of producing music for videogames, or even some movies with futuristic themes? You might get a big money out of that. You're pretty good, dude (or dudess; I believe you're a dude).

I'm listening to Crow now. What software do you use?
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Listened to Chemistry and Self Destruct, and listening to Crow. They're all incredibly good; Chemistry is now one of my favorite songs. Groan is right, this would be really neat in a videogame, not just a futuristic one, but trippy ones too, like Hotline Miami

edit: Just finished Crow, and I like it even more than Chemistry
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Always had an interest in doing music for video games or movies. But not in the traditional orchestral sense of course. Although if I had the right tools at my disposal, that might be an option as well. It's hard to get into that industry without knowing the right people, like anything else in life. If you are very visible, it can make up for a lack of networking though. I'm not very visible.

I don't make too incredibly long of tracks because general listener attention drops off after 3 minutes - s'why all pop music runs about that long. There's a lot of bands that have done well doing a little more than that, but they usually started out very "mainstream" in song length to obtain a listener base.

Mostly I just write what comes to mind. By the time they hit 3 or 4 minutes, the piece is finished in my mind, mostly anyway. Nothing is ever really finished, I just get frustrated and move on.

I've been doing this for about ten years, Groan. I started out with a very early version of Fruity Loops. I still use FL Studio today, albeit with a larger selection of tools to go with it. I'm still not writing and playing at the level I'd like to be - maybe someday.

Thanks, both of you. Crow, Self Destruct, Abyss are my current favorites. It changes pretty often...and usually, at some point, I am sick of my works. That's part of being an artist, though. I'm far more familiar with each of these than anyone else ever could be.
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The length of the song and the general listener's attention rate... That generally depends a lot on the situation the listener is and the elements found in the music. But I understand what you said. If you didn't have any inspiration to go on composing these songs, it was better to simply leave them as they are. (:

I use Fruity Loops as well! For recording (Edison) and producing. It's the best DAW out there, in my opinion. And you did a really great job with it. I wish I could do something as good as you, you're really great.

You're right, I get tired of my songs very often. I try to make riffs on the guitar that sound exaggeratedly soothing, or insanely acid, or extremely “wet” and psychedelic, so I take a longer time to get tired of the sensation I get from hearing them. And a lot of the arrangements in your tracks actually made me feel that way...

Keep making music, man. Post them here or send me it through PM. I'll gladly listen to them and share them if necessary. (:
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Having done it for ten years, I'll never stop now. Unless a serious life-changing circumstance happens, or something. I don't expect to ever make money or gain any real fame out of it...but I guess, you never know. The truth is, at 25, if I don't manage to get visible in the next couple years...it is basically a pipe dream, and will be nothing more than a hobby for the rest of my days (probably.) But that being said, maybe it will one day stand on its own as a real form of sonic "art."

All DAWs are good if you know how to use it well. Some people are very talented with Ableton, Cubase, Logic...more recently Reaper. Pro Tools is the industry standard but it's not really designed for people who utilize sequencing heavily. It boils down to your abilities at mixing and mastering, your ear, your knowledge and experience in composition/music theory, your personal artistic "voice", your ability with synthesizers, your ability to play an instrument(s)...and sadly, the quality of the tools - namely, synths, samples, instruments, mics, recording area you are using. It also has something to do with how much you try to emulate what's already been done. In a lot of ways, I've kinda gone my own way, and that's probably a bad thing...but I'd rather write something that has real meaning to me...and not something that simply sounds like someone else.

I'm really glad you enjoy them. To be honest with you, it is only recently that I'm finding my music having a very high value of "replayability." It's taken me years to get hear. Most of my works prior to 2012, I had to leave lay around for a year or so after producing before I could "appreciate" them again.

If you ever post anything of yours, I'll gladly take a listen as well :) I bought an electric guitar recently with humbuckers, but haven't really played it much. Screwed around with acoustic for years, and never really used it in any recordings. Piano/keyboard is such a versatile instrument...and I feel like the more time I spend on it, the more time I need to stay with it. Doesn't leave a lot of time to learn another.
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Generally Ableton and Cubase come with built-in equalization (I haven't owned any of them, so Idk if you can turn that option off). They're made for modern new producers. FL Studio comes with the raw, non-equalized sound (unless you use ASIO4ALL). And FL Studio haves sequencing, which makes it way better than Pro Tools for producers like us, I guess.

That's why I generally lean more towards FL Studio. It fits all my needs, and haves a whole lot of good built-in plugins. So it's kind of me saying: "Hey, it's better because it's perfect for me." Haha. Kinda selfish, but I understand what you're saying. A great producer will produce something great if he haves the necessary equipment and tools, doesn't matter what DAW he's using.

I wish I could play the keyboard. Or maybe a piano (I don't think so). But I don't have the money for it. I still have to buy a REAL bass, haha. Wonder if I'll ever have the money for a piano... And the time and patience to learn it. It seems kinda hard for me.

I don't think I'll ever make any thread about my music here, so, I'll just post it for you. Check it out when you have the patience:
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Hey, I really like it. In the tense parts, I was hoping for drums that were a bit more organic (hard hitting toms for instance) but otherwise I think it's really solid. I didn't listen to the whole thing yet, but I think you definitely have a lot of talent, and probably, you will eventually have quite a following with music like that. It's much closer to what's being done "out there" while still being unique in the kind of abstract atmosphere it has.

Reminds me a bit of deftones.
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Thank you, man. That means a lot to me. We kinda have a bit of influence coming from the Deftones, but that's something I plan on developing even further. And it's great you noticed the focus on atmosphere, you're probably the first person that I see mentioning it. That's probably because you are a great musician, and it's easier for you to actually see that.
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