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Old 08-19-11, 06:49 PM   #1
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Hey... I'm working on some industrial/electronic type stuff and wondering if there's anyone among you who would consider giving some tips or helping out with something that's getting me stuck? I can never, ever keep the percussion in sync. It's the main reason I only have one sole completed track and a bunch of unfinished shit on my computer. I don't have a beatmaking program so all the percussion is either from my keyboard or recorded live (and since I'm not a drummer and the only drummer I know has no interest in helping me, it's not at all precise and I can't stay in rhythm), and, well, I can't keep it in sync with everything else for the length of the track and no amount of tweaking has been able to help me (probably because I don't have any good software and am still fairly new at this). What can I do to make this less of a problem? Thanks...

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Hey... I'm working on some industrial/electronic type stuff and wondering if there's anyone among you who would consider giving some tips or helping out with something that's getting me stuck? I can never, ever keep the percussion in sync. It's the main reason I only have one sole completed track and a bunch of unfinished shit on my computer. I don't have a beatmaking program so all the percussion is either from my keyboard or recorded live (and since I'm not a drummer and the only drummer I know has no interest in helping me, it's not at all precise and I can't stay in rhythm), and, well, I can't keep it in sync with everything else for the length of the track and no amount of tweaking has been able to help me (probably because I don't have any good software and am still fairly new at this). What can I do to make this less of a problem? Thanks...
Maybe I can help a bit. When it comes to percussion (for industrial/ electronic music), its all about knowing how to juggle between the right VSTi (virtual instrument), synthesizer (or keyboard), and the right editing techniques. Industrial percussion, more than anything, is all about the gain filters and atmospheric effects. But before you can do that, you have to start from the basic. Which is of course fixing this sync problem your experiencing. Here are some things you should know about how to handle synthetic percussion (both in keyboards, and in various MIDI based programs).

How to fix your sync problem throw your computer: (Depending on your OS, of course. What i`m describing here is a solution that`s mainly for people that use Windows XP and above. If your using a MAC, than that's a different story)

First. Check out what company made your keyboard. Go online. Visit their web site and search for their most recent patches, updates, and any other downloadable content (Which is usually free of charge, unless you wanna buy an expansion). The thing you should mainly look for is a standalone program which is act as VSTi (which is often stated as such in their website). That program will allow you to sync your keyboards with your computer. Its an important feature which will also provide you with a proper mechanism to edit your songs step by step, beat by beat, and in sync with the programs metronome (which can of course be set to whatever you want it to be). Once you have obtained the proper VSTi, all that`s left is installing the program, setting up its properties according to your hardware spec, and hooking up your keyboards onto to your computer, starting to work by using a MIDI map (a feature that will allow you to sync your beats step by step, note by note).

Second. Depending on which program your using to record your music, one of the most important things you need to do before starting to compose, is to understand how to utilize the program`s basic features properly. And the most basic thing is to know how minimize the programs latency. Failing to do so with result in inconsistencies between the device itself (your keyboard), and between the software. If you dont do this right, it may often cause your song to get scrambled and mixed up during the exporting process (when you turn the protect into a commonly recognizable format. Such as: wave, mp3, avi, whatever). Not setting this up correctly will also cause lag in the recording itself, preventing you from being able to sync anything. Don't worry, I know how it all sounds, but its no biggy one you get the hang of it. To solve progblems such as those, all you gotta do is download and install something called: ASIO4ALL. Its easy to install, easy to set up, and free of charge. And after you have set it up, all that`s left for you to do is to load your VSTi into an open source MIDI project (which can often be chosen by default), and start recording.

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Everything I have described in this specific paragraph is basically how to sync between your keyboard, your computer, and the program your using to record your music. Simply: Install. Set up. Plug in. Play & record. In the end, its as simple as that and once you get use to it, you'll see that its not a big deal. It just seems complicated when you write it all down lol. However, in case you experience unforeseen difficulties such as not being able to find a proper VSTi for your keyboard, know that there are alternatives programs (such as: "Steinberg Helion" or Native Instruments "Traktor" and "Kontakt") which can give you the same effect. And if you want, I can recommend for you some relatively user friendly recording programs. If you have any questions feel free to ask. Mind you though, I am not a sound technician, nor can I always offer proper tech support. I`m just a regular guy that happens to have the same hobby as you. That`s all.
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