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Old 12-23-08, 07:13 AM   #1
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Hi guys

I've started suffering from panic attacks. You know how it goes, the feeling of not being able to breathe, like something is wrapping around your chest, the nausea, the chills.

I've had some bad experiences with therapy and because of this, the more conventional techniques actually make things worse. Focusing on my breathing, for instance, and concentrating on taking slow deep breathes slows down my breathing rate but increases the feeling of being overwhelmed and "flooded" and increases the chest tightness. So do techniques such as mindfulness or focusing on my body. Any form of meditation/mindfulness/hypnosis makes things ten times worse until I start shaking.

I really need some different techniques to use I'm kind of losing it here. I get it at night and I can't sleep or do anything except sit still. It sort of paralyses me. I'm getting only a few hours sleep each night and its taking its toll on me.

I REALLy REALLY need help. How do people cope? How do you manage to distract yourselves? I just get completely consumed by it and spend time just trying not to scream and stay calm. Remind myself its just a feeling you know, it wil pass it will pass it can't hurt me.

Please help. any advice appreciated. I'm getting desperate I cant just spend my entire life trying to stop myself from losing it.
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Old 12-23-08, 09:35 AM   #2
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Sometimes panic attacks are controlled with medication, does your doctor know you are having them and to what degree?
I find the deep breathing to help me, but I'm also on medication for anxiety which helps with the panic attacks.
So sorry your expierencing them and I know how terrifying they can be, Good Luck to you!
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Oo, I think meditation often has that effect on people. When you focus on your breathing it can bring on a anxiety attack. I found doing guided meditations and not worrying about my breathing to begin with helped me but it sounds like you need something else.
I've been put on medication which has helped with the anxiety, though it made it much worse until the meds kicked in. But it was worth it in the end.
Its going to sound really lame but books can help... I think there's even Anxiety for Dummies out there, I'd go to the library and have a look. Sometimes a book will just jump out at you, and that's the information you need.
But be kind to yourself, do things you enjoy, try and keep busy and it will help; the happier you are the less anxious you will be. Good luck!
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Oo, I think meditation often has that effect on people. When you focus on your breathing it can bring on a anxiety attack. I found doing guided meditations and not worrying about my breathing to begin with helped me but it sounds like you need something else.
I've been put on medication which has helped with the anxiety, though it made it much worse until the meds kicked in. But it was worth it in the end.
Its going to sound really lame but books can help... I think there's even Anxiety for Dummies out there, I'd go to the library and have a look. Sometimes a book will just jump out at you, and that's the information you need.
But be kind to yourself, do things you enjoy, try and keep busy and it will help; the happier you are the less anxious you will be. Good luck!
I think you are right with this "When you focus on your breathing it can bring on a anxiety attack."
When someone tells us "imagine red elephant and now do not think of it", what will we think of? The red elephant.
But how to focus on something else? How? As the person mentioned above that feeling of beeing flooded in the chest...
I try to relax, but as something tells me "take deep breath, breath deeeply and deeeply"...It is like having tiger in the body that wants to jump out...."

Are you on medications now, and if not, how do you cope?
You mentioned the book on Anxiety, but I live in a country where there are no books on this issue available and even when it is considered strange to tell someone about this...
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Hi guys

I've started suffering from panic attacks. You know how it goes, the feeling of not being able to breathe, like something is wrapping around your chest, the nausea, the chills.

I've had some bad experiences with therapy and because of this, the more conventional techniques actually make things worse. Focusing on my breathing, for instance, and concentrating on taking slow deep breathes slows down my breathing rate but increases the feeling of being overwhelmed and "flooded" and increases the chest tightness. So do techniques such as mindfulness or focusing on my body. Any form of meditation/mindfulness/hypnosis makes things ten times worse until I start shaking.

I really need some different techniques to use I'm kind of losing it here. I get it at night and I can't sleep or do anything except sit still. It sort of paralyses me. I'm getting only a few hours sleep each night and its taking its toll on me.

I REALLy REALLY need help. How do people cope? How do you manage to distract yourselves? I just get completely consumed by it and spend time just trying not to scream and stay calm. Remind myself its just a feeling you know, it wil pass it will pass it can't hurt me.

Please help. any advice appreciated. I'm getting desperate I cant just spend my entire life trying to stop myself from losing it.
The only thing that helped me were medications.
But the problem is, when I stop using them, the misery comes back...I am im this misery again. I do not know if there is something alternative I didnt't try...(yga doing it regulary 6 years, relaxation and meditation, breathin exercises, valeriane tea, chamomilae, st, john's wort tablets)..
But nothing works exept medications.
I am in a phase now where I thought I can beat it on my own but with each day i deteriorate more and more. I lost 3-4 kilos for few days, lost sleep, apetite, and have several PA daily...So I made an appointment with the psychiatrist for Friday...

I don't know what bad experience you had with medicines? Which ones you took? Did a doctor prescribed them to you? Did they have side effects whiule you were taking or (as in my case wit seroxat-paroxetine) side effects came when I tried to ceased them? This is very important.
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I haven't been on any medications for anxiety, but I self prescribed St John's wart once. I've been on SSRIs before (medicines for depression, ie lexapro) but I reacted quite badly to them; started getting really light headed and dizzy all the time, like I was going to pass out.

I was sort of hoping I'd be able to find techniques to deal with this without falling back to meds, like you said. Its like taking meds is admitting self defeat or weakness to myself (even though I know this is absolutely ridiculous). A pathetic mindset I've somehow managed to adopt. Why should I need to take these tablets when most people don't need to? Why do I need help to be "normal" whatever the hell that means. I think if I bit the bullet and went to see a doctor about this I would be so muhc better off, but in the past, every time I've gone to a therapist or doctor to discuss my problems things have gotten a lot worse.

Lady M, did the hypnosis/meditation work at all for you? When I underwent hypnosis years ago I found that it helped a lot with some of my more specific anxieties (I wrote a bit about it in the therapy section of TTL if you want to have a look). Maybe you could try a different therapist? I'm too scared to go back to the same therapist that worked for me so long ago but thats because of other issues I'm dealing with, not just the anxiety. It might be worth a try if you want to stop taking medications.
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... I really need some different techniques to use I'm kind of losing it here. I get it at night and I can't sleep or do anything except sit still. It sort of paralyses me. I'm getting only a few hours sleep each night and its taking its toll on me.

I REALLy REALLY need help. How do people cope? How do you manage to distract yourselves? I just get completely consumed by it and spend time just trying not to scream and stay calm. ...
ok, how about trying to read a book until you fall asleep or almost fall asleep? nothing too exciting or too interesting.
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