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Old 01-23-09, 09:49 PM   #21
 
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Well my dad was pretty good with helping with my homework, going to performances, giving money, etc. However, he also cheated on my mother and continued to lie to his kids about it even after my mom died in a plane crash (w her mom/my grandmother), and he openly started seeing this woman he was having the affair with. I was also genetically predisposed to depression/mania because my mom was severely affected by depression/mania. I also found in recent years that my diet has a MAJOR impact on my mood. Just like "oneday" said his parents were like pancho's afforementioned "good" parents. However, Oneday feels this was negative, yet pancho feels differently about it. Like my Indian friend enjoys saying, "We generally have greater appreciation for that which we do not have." I guess what I'm trying to say is what oneday said may be a pretty reasonable theory on ONE ASPECT of depression/mental disorders, however I think in many cases it is such a multi-faceted issue, it would not be fair to try to pin it to one cause. Especially because aside from being so complex, the disease itself also varies significantly from one individual to another. IMHO
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I only think about depression and no other mental disorders of any kind including bi-polar.

Dysfunction of relationship with parents is the single biggest aspect all sufferers share with depression.

Why would you not want to try and pin it to one cause to try and find out exactly what it was that was wrong with all of us, to help all of us?

This theory works for 90% of depression sufferers.
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Old 01-24-09, 04:04 AM   #23
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Because you're explanation is wrong, oneday. Not all depression sufferers are going to fit into one box. We're all different people. You can't stereotype depression sufferers like that. We all don't have dysfunctional relationships with our parents.
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What about people who suffer from postpartum depression, post traumatic stress disorder, DRUG USE etc. Often times an earth-shattering event that occurs late in one's life can be the cause (ie. a woman who lost most of her family because of a drunk driver). Not to mention that there is the genetic part of this disorder. Some come from decent home lives and still suffer. I agree that dysfunction in the home is a MAJOR cause for some. However, I honestly don't believe it is fair to say THE SINGLE BIGGEST cause. The reason I say it isn't fair is because your theory is exclusionary to those whose depression issues are not related to a dysfunctional home which doesn't make these issues any more or less real. Not to mention that depression/bipolar/anxiety are all related, and the majority of those who suffer from depression also suffer from some form of anxiety. So, when you say you are ONLY focusing on depression, you have to realize that these other mood disorders are all related. It would be nice to narrow the single cause of depression, but if it were such a singular thing then it probably wouldn't be such an issue. I think the focus of the sufferer should not be to narrow the cause(s) for US but narrow the cause(s) for YOU. You understand you best, and as far as anyone else's life you are really just speculating. again this is just my opinion
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Everything is a great big giant spider-web and I doubt that you can make something like depression as clear-cut as "blame it on the parents."

When I think about it, I've got some amazing parents and still get wrapped up in depression. In my case, it is somewhat genetic, so if you want to blame that on them then I guess your theory may work a bit. But otherwise, I can't say they've been anything other than loving and helpful in helping me find balance and get back on my feet.

Then there is my ex, who had really fucked up parents. Not physically abusive or anything, but cowards emotionally in their own right. I would say that that contributed to his depression and whole bag of issues, but what really drove him was his need for attention and his own cowardice when it came to being a good person.

In the end I think that parents are only the foundation - good or bad - for your life, unless they continue to exist in yours through contact of some variety or another. But, again, that gets complex... I agree with love4pancho - you just can't group depression into one big box and slap on a label. It sounds more like you're lonely and trying to find other people who were hurt like you were by your parents - do you think that you'd get more growth of out of this if you approached the subject that way?
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Ccali327, anxiety is caused by depression. I think that around 85-90% of depression is caused by a disturbed upbringing. The other 15-10% is caused I think by the type of situations you describe 'postpartum depression, post traumatic stress disorder, DRUG USE etc. Often times an earth-shattering event that occurs late in one's life can be the cause (ie. a woman who lost most of her family because of a drunk driver)'.

Mellow I think you are right parents are the foundation of depression. After that depression is selt perpetulating.
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Again oneday, you are wrong. Anxiety is NOT always caused by depression. It can be, but it isn't ALWAYS. When I was younger, I did not suffer from depression, and yet I have had acute anxiety disorder all of my life. Where did it comre from? I didn't get depressed until I reached adulthood. So what could have been the cause? You can't make generalizations about other people, it just will not work. People don't fit into neat little boxes.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe mellow said that parents are the foundation of depression at all. I believe what mellow said was parents are the foundation of one's life. It's almost as if you changed mellow's words to "put her on your side." This kind of validates what mellow actually said, it seems as if you are trying to find others who were hurt by their parents because it makes you feel less alone. I am not sure about that because I don't know you, but I agree 100 percent that the outcome would be much more progressive if you approached the issue like that. I mean I think this debate goes for just about ANY illness. take a look at this Causes of Depression
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I think that depression is both attributed to genetic defects so you are more prone to having it and also relationships with parents, friends, etc. as well as bad occurences during your lifetime which build up.
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How many things do your parents teach you growing up? hundreds, there are things you can find out for yourself, but not everything, you need your parents. So if you have parents but there is somesort of dysfunction with them and your family, your going to not learn alot of things you might need. Thats going to cause alot of problems in your life, causing you to be very unhappy.
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