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Old 10-18-09, 01:13 AM   #1
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Hello! Have you tried to concentrate when you feel depressed or anxious? When i feel that way i concentrate (meditation) on the inner sound and some other methods and those feelings go away. Sensations of harmony takes their place and when i managed to reach very very strong concentration i felt huge bliss and ectasy. Just like they say it works in Yoga, Tantra, Buddhism and what else.

Donīt you think most of us have a little Adhd and that this problem when the mind is all over the place let low thoughts and their emotions take over?

Tantra teach that when our mind is strongly concentrated then energies are focused in a subtle body central channel and we experience bliss. Most of the time this energy is spread into 2 other channels i think they say.
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I really don't know how this concentration works. I might relate what you're saying to this: when depressed(anxiety based) I watch a movie that I might like. That movie catches my attention (it does need to be DVD or high quality) so I get a certain connection to it. If I suspect the outcome of that movie, I might tend not to watch it... If I like the movie, it induces me normal breathing/heart beatrate and a certain ability of focusing. I can feel it in my brain, like the frontal lobes get activity.

I also know a state between depressed and normal when the frontal lobes seem to tickle and there's an undecided activity in my brain. That's when I resist self hate.

When depressed, I can feel how the brain activity is low. If I don't fight it, bad thoughts arise, they get momentum and after a few days I'll be hit with bad memories, that I normally don't even think about. After that, things spiral out of control. I haven't experienced full depression for quite a while now, because I do sports, eat regularly, am talkative and learned "to deal with" things.

Tell me, please, how do you focus on the inner sound ? I suspect what you're talking about is related to self-hypnosis... When do you apply these techniques ?
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I really don't know how this concentration works. I might relate what you're saying to this: when depressed(anxiety based) I watch a movie that I might like. That movie catches my attention (it does need to be DVD or high quality) so I get a certain connection to it. If I suspect the outcome of that movie, I might tend not to watch it... If I like the movie, it induces me normal breathing/heart beatrate and a certain ability of focusing. I can feel it in my brain, like the frontal lobes get activity.

I also know a state between depressed and normal when the frontal lobes seem to tickle and there's an undecided activity in my brain. That's when I resist self hate.

When depressed, I can feel how the brain activity is low. If I don't fight it, bad thoughts arise, they get momentum and after a few days I'll be hit with bad memories, that I normally don't even think about. After that, things spiral out of control. I haven't experienced full depression for quite a while now, because I do sports, eat regularly, am talkative and learned "to deal with" things.

Tell me, please, how do you focus on the inner sound ? I suspect what you're talking about is related to self-hypnosis... When do you apply these techniques ?
The method of meditation I used is based on the practice of Zen. I learned it from a book entitled 'The Three Pillars of Zen.' You begin by focusing on the breath. You count "one" on the inhalation, "two" on the exhalation, all the way up to ten before beginning again.

Even if you find that your mind wanders and have difficulty focusing, after a while the depth of your concentration will increase and the meditative state will become much easier to attain.

There are many methods of meditation. I like this one because its so simple and proven. Technically, what you described above is also meditation. This sometimes happens to me as well with certain movies. And if I meditate a lot the zen way, then I find myself slipping into a meditative state of mind all the time, no matter what I'm doing. These are the periods when my depression is all but gone.
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Thanks for the reply. I suspect this method to be quite good for anxiety. Last few days I was having very high anxiety levels, I did some relaxing techniques, you know laying down and breathing deep. I was doing that in order to get some preconscious images (similar to dreams) that I could analyze. I know a lot of psychoanalysis. Glad to say the anxiety is gone .

So what do you do when you're in a meditative state ? You meditate on "random" things ?
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Thanks for the reply. I suspect this method to be quite good for anxiety. Last few days I was having very high anxiety levels, I did some relaxing techniques, you know laying down and breathing deep. I was doing that in order to get some preconscious images (similar to dreams) that I could analyze. I know a lot of psychoanalysis. Glad to say the anxiety is gone .

So what do you do when you're in a meditative state ? You meditate on "random" things ?
Its sort of hard for me to explain. Yes, you could say I "meditate on random things." When you meditate, you concentrate on one thing to the exclusion of all else. Often this is my breath, sometimes its a sound, or it can even be simply an awareness of by body, of its extension in space.

The main thing is that the mind is calm. Its not bouncing from object to object, from thought to thought. Consciousness is controlled. Things only affect you if you allow them to. There is will power, choice. You aren't bothered by petty annoyances, and yet you are warmy touched by those things that truly do warrant your attention. Music is enhaced, bickering is quieted.

You mention psychoanalysis. Meditation definitely brings you closer in touch with your subconscious, your instincts, your deep internal drives.

I believe that I once rid myself of an anxiety disorder through meditation. I steeped up my practice and started leaving my comfort zone more frequently. After a few months my anxiety was totally gone.

Then I quit meditating, thinking I didn't have to anymore, and now I'm back to my old anxious self. I'm getting back into it though.

Good luck to you. As bad as anxiety is, sometimes having powerful enemies can lead to great rewards.
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Thanks, Darcy. You can post about your depression if you want to. I'll try to help.
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I disagree with your statement that most of us are somewhat ADHD, Samadhi. There are many people who come to this forum whose symptoms varry widely, and ADHD does not even begin to enter into many of them in any fashion.

I appreciate your sharing about meditation and its benefits. I know many people have found it helpful, and others could look into it who are new to the idea after reading that you find it helpful here.
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I disagree with your statement that most of us are somewhat ADHD, Samadhi. There are many people who come to this forum whose symptoms varry widely, and ADHD does not even begin to enter into many of them in any fashion.

I appreciate your sharing about meditation and its benefits. I know many people have found it helpful, and others could look into it who are new to the idea after reading that you find it helpful here.

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