is having a plan bad?

fade2black · 03-09-2010, 08:36 PM

I have a plan - but I'm not sure I'll use it. I was told this was bad and I should get rid of stuff that allows me to go through with it. But it makes me feel better, like there is a way out. And then if I feel better I might not need to use it. I am so confused

Poison · 03-09-2010, 08:54 PM

Hey fade2black, having a set a plan for your suicide is not a good thing, that you already worked up a plan tells me you are already pretty far on the edge.
If i were you i would have dropped that plan and try to find some help or just someone to talk to first for starters.. if you feel like you wanna talk just send me a message.
hope this is gonna turn out alright for you in the end..

All the best
Poison

punkchiclet88 · 03-09-2010, 09:40 PM

I dont think having a plan and the items is a good idea. In my opinion it doesnt seem safe because I know from experience even the littlest things can bring me down to the point of wanting to end it. And if I had the items I probably would have and ultimately regret it. I say if you have the items throw them away and when you are down that low call a suicide hotline or come here and talk to us.

laneblade · 03-09-2010, 10:26 PM

Definitely not a good idea. You need to surround yourself with more positive things instead of tools that you can use. Having them around will make you think about it and you need to avoid it. Wouldn't a drug or alcohol abuser get rid of their drugs or alcohol? You don't need to surround yourself with things that will make you think of suicide. You need to surround yourself with things that will help you go on. Do you have any hobbies that you enjoy or used to enjoy? Like music, video games or movies? Get some comedies. Get something besides these tools that you may use during a horrible moment of pain. Get something that you can use during that time that is more of a positive outlet. Lets work on some things that you can do shall we?

Loofah · 03-10-2010, 10:48 AM

I have a plan and the tools too - discussed regularly with my therapist who agrees that if it makes me feel better and more secure then dont stress with guilt about it. Do you think having a plan makes you more likely to carry it out on a whim?

mazer · 03-10-2010, 12:15 PM

I am going with a 'No, it is not bad' and I will explain my position in two ways.
First, having a plan is where you are. We would like you to destroy the means of executing that plan, but that is a step toward healing that you have to take. Take that step please, but take it with commitment and dedication to recovery. If having a plan is a coping mechanism for you, then you need to replace that coping mechanism with a more healthy one. As you say yourself, having the plan makes you feel better and feeling better means you may not use it. You are coping.
Second, I had a plan once, it was a long-term one and I think my plan helped me. There were several instances where I just thought life was so terrible that I should just end it now, but I didn't because ending it now did not follow my plan and if I was going to commit suicide, why not follow my own plan.
In the end, I didn't do it and I destroyed my means. Maybe it wasn't the healthiest way through, but I found a way through.

fade2black · 03-11-2010, 11:44 AM

I got rid of the "stuff" although I still have a plan in mind and still don't think it is neccesarily bad. I do feel some anxiety over not having it anymore, but I know it is probably better. The thing is, I don't think I actually want to die - but I am obsessed with killing mself. I feel like I'm going crazy. But honestly, I'll be fine. Probably going off meds was a bad decision...

mazer · 03-11-2010, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by fade2black

I got rid of the "stuff" although I still have a plan in mind and still don't think it is neccesarily bad. I do feel some anxiety over not having it anymore, but I know it is probably better. The thing is, I don't think I actually want to die - but I am obsessed with killing mself. I feel like I'm going crazy. But honestly, I'll be fine. Probably going off meds was a bad decision...

I read your post. I probably did not read all of it equally.