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Old 04-14-2009, 01:06 PM   #31
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Nothing hurts more than giving love that isn't returned.
That's the complete truth there.
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Old 04-15-2009, 09:46 AM   #32
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(Hugs)

I know how most of you feel.

I'd really like clearer communication, and having a clue where I stand! lol
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Old 04-20-2009, 11:07 PM   #33
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Hi Crystal,

Hate to sound repetitive, but I have to concur with a lot of guys (and ladies) here when I say it varies.

Me, for example? I want a woman who appreciates things like good food and wine, who won't snear when I tell her I want to go hunting for wild leeks and morels. Someone who adores newborn babies. Someone, who, uh, likes to be appreciates being, um, pleasured.

But that's just me...

I don't think it's a situation of what men or women want. People are just that. The key is finding the one who's right for you.

Full disclosure: Some people might consider me to be bisexual (what can I say, I'm curious about cock!) but I still think I've been around the (heterosexual) dating scene long enough to know that we just all need to find the right fit.

Sorry if that doesn't help very much...John
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Old 04-29-2009, 07:46 PM   #34
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Someone who isn't retarded, bitchy, naive or ignorant like most girls I know. The ones I know who aren't are either too good for me or only want friendship. Goddamn I hate people.
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Old 04-29-2009, 08:15 PM   #35
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Her to realise how much I like her, and to not find that weird...
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Old 08-08-2009, 06:45 PM   #36
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Ok I don't know if I am supposed to be posting here but you know what I want answers so sue me.
I want to ask a question in the women's forum, too -- so you are permitted.

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Honestly, I want to know. MEN, what do you guys REALLY want? I'll be honest I am one of those girls who has assumed all men are douches and only care about looks. But i know this is not true-just like that not all women are manipulative,cold hearted gold-diggers.
For the most part, guys just want looks (i.e. a boner). The good news is that maybe 3-5% of guys are not like this.

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So tell me,honestly what do guys really want in a girl?
This will vary from guy to guy. For me:
1) Attractive and strong/athletic
2) Quiet/faithful/golden retriever-like
3) Can accept me despite the fact that I am disgusting in many, many ways

To be honest, I'm not even sure if it's possible for a girl to be both #1 and #2 above.

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And how come when guys are together and start talking about girls that you guys only discuss their appearance and bodies? and or their sex lives?
I'd say guys only talk about physical appearance because:
1) This is how we are wired by nature. (We see, and then we... ummm... spring).
2) For the most part, we are very shallow

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What are some things about women you don't like?(like what could we change to be better girlfriends/wives) How do you want your girlfriend/wife to treat you?
I honestly can't handle a lot of conversation. (I'm an introvert). More than anything I just want a woman to be non-argumentative and faithful. Oh, and keep my chores to a minimum, too.

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and how can we women read men? like how to tell if he will cheat or not?
Tough question. Actually, I think you already read us pretty well.

As far as cheating is concerned, I'd encourage you to evaluate the overall morality of the man. (Does he have any morals at all?) I mean, if he enjoys using profanity, getting drunk, having sex, smoking, getting angry... well, this would be a sign to me to stay away. I mean, if he does not have a sense of morality in the lesser things, he probably won't have one in the greater things, either. I like to advise women to find a man down at their local non-denominational church... but I don't think they ever listen to me.

Also, there are four personality types:

1) Lion - Extroverted. Strong, assertive personality
2) Otter - Extroverted. Entertainer, life of the party
3) Beaver - Introverted, perfectionistic, great workers.
4) Golden Retrievers - Introverted, loyal, faithful, agreeable.

If you want to increase your chances of finding a faithful man, stick with the golden retrievers.
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Old 08-08-2009, 08:37 PM   #37
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hmmm - wasn't snoopy a Beagle?

I don't want to analyse men as if they were profound, complex beings. I think that is the key to success....
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Old 08-10-2009, 07:00 AM   #38
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Hehe, we've got our profound complexities, but with guys, if something seems simple, it probably is.

Guys are driven, in part, by our libido. It shows through sometimes, and other times its extremely subtle. It's usually not obvious, even to us. But its always there. Some guys tap into those impulses more than others, but we all have it. You can choose to demonize us for it, or just take it as a fact of life.

As for what I want? Probably not very alike to other guys here who've posted.

Personally I like a woman who have a keen sense of style (not fashion). Lately, I've found that style seems to get my immediate attention more than just about anything else, when it comes to first impressions.

I'm a MASSIVE sucker for short black hair, glasses, irregular face & nose.
I also love tomboys.

But I've also, unfortunately, found that I have a difficult time staying sexually interested in girls that aren't in fair to good physical shape. I wish this weren't so. I do not like that I discriminate based on weight, but I cannot help it. This caused problems in my last relationship that I broke off with a girl who I cared for deeply, but simply wasn't attracted to. I feel terrible every time I think about it. And I hate fanning the man-hating flames, but I can't dodge the truth. Fortunately, not all guys have this problem.

What I really want from my girl long term though? Strength, determination, aspirations, drive. I find my knees turn to jello when I'm around a woman who knows what she wants out of life and pursues it to the fullest. It earns deep respect from me.

And very independent girls. And very logical girls. Both, super hot.

I've been around a few women throughout my life who were obviously looking for someone to take care of them, who were scouting to get the highest guy on the totem pole, who don't think through their actions and use their emotions as justification enough. I've met some women who are ultimately self serving in the big picture, but go through pains to appear giving in the details. They left a very sour taste in my mouth.
Those are the things I don't respect, and avoid.

So, there ya go. That's one more guy's thoughts to chalk up.
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Old 08-10-2009, 08:47 AM   #39
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Personally my ideal girl:

- Can laugh at herself
- Easy going (this one is really important)
- Intelligence
- Active (like to try new sports and things to do)
- Solid: has her head firmly attached to her neck and knows where she wants to go (don't confuse this with ambitious they are different to me because even if a girl wanted to be a housewife, that's ok, just not the 'i dunno what to do girl)
- She must get along with the boys (also a big sure winner)
- No temper (PMS: grumpy I can handle but any more is a big no no)

A few other notes
- believe it or not the one thing that goes through a (serious) guy's head is I will have to spend the rest of my life with her. So those tempermental fits and other undesireable traits should go. Yes we know you know what they are!
- Smoking hot girls are good for sex but a great girl is someone who is comfortable in their own skin. Confidence is soooo sexy in bed. Ask any guy if he wants a girl to take control more often and there is your answer.
- Don't be too controlling. Understand that guys do like to hit the pub, or golf with the boys or even counter strike for a few hours at a time. It's not because he doesn't enjoy spending time with you but guys NEED to be competitive with one another. Let him do his thing and he will treat you better afterwards.
- Don't nag. That's what mums are for. Tell him once and tell him you're serious.
- Be laid back. Yes I know it's a repeat but do it.
- Don't ask stupid questions. Ok, I know that's probably the hardest thing but make an effort please. Questions like; 'would you take me back if i cheated on you', 'do I look fat in this' , 'who is the most beautiful in the world', 'would you pick a night with miranda kerr or me' usually only have on real answer. When we do say it you don't believe us anyway and ask us again, then we're like 'omg I just want her to stop this nonsense, I'll say the other one maybe...?'

Finally: Smile more. There is nothing better than that!

*Disclaimer: This is the 'perfect' girl and just as there is no such male equivalent there is also no female equivalent. Trying some of these things is against nature itself (much like guys trying leave the toilet seat down, why does it have to be down anyhow...ok I'm off track now) so I think it is fair to say that it is very unfair to expect all these qualities of a girl. Don't feel too bad about yourself. Remember the most important thing is to be happy, smile and enjoy the company.
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My answer to this question is short and sweet.

to be loved and supported. That is all I want.
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